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How ICE Landed at Your Airport

Immigration enforcement has gone from a strength to an electoral liability for Republicans—but even if it isn’t in the leading headline, it’s still a priority.

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Kristi Noem is out, and Senator Markwayne Mullin is in (in theory) as the new DHS secretary. Mullin tried to strike a softer tone during his confirmation hearing, nodding towards rolling back controversial policies like entering homes without a judicial warrant—but his reputation as a Senate-floor brawler raises questions about whether that’s just rhetoric. Meanwhile, the partial government shutdown, ongoing since February 14, continues to affect the department, including causing disruptions to airport services.

What do all these developments signal about the direction that DHS is heading?

Guest: Nick Miroff, staff writer for The Atlantic covering immigration.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.